john feehery and joan walsh are here. it sounds like house snapping across the aisle, a reference to people who are republican but believed there is a reasonable agreement for wider background checks. could your party veer that far over that they'd go to somebody as tough as this guy, as hard-lined? >> it could. he's got the party tied up. i think it will go to the governor. it could be a governor like mike pence who is very conservative. i remember people talking about mark sanford being a presidential candidate. >> what about the political spectrum? my hunch, as i've said, i think hillary will run a notch or two to the right of president obama. that's the sweet spot for any party. will your guy be to the left or right of mitt romney? >> he'll be to the right but not as far right as ted cruz. he would be somewhere in the middle. although i will say, chris christie could get the -- >> well, he wouldn't be to the right. >> no, he won't. >> he could possibly beat hillary. >> republicans don't win primaries. you know that be